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Yes, runaway debt is a terrible thing. We can't count on interest rates remaining extremely low forever. In particular, they will rise once the economy is growing quickly.

Fortunately, debt service is presently a very minor portion of our outgoes. A significant increase is something that the added revenue from a strong economy could absorb handily.

As for the political machinations. Well, Democrats are way way less disciplined than the Republicans. I don't think they could come close enough to pulling this off for it to be a serious concern. Do you have any historical examples in mind here?
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No, I don't have a specific incident in mind and holding the debt limit hostage to get their way seems to be a realitively new tactic by the GOP. But given the history of congress and how bills are continually held up in congress (both the house and the senate) if pork riders attached to a spending bill are not included, I wouldn't put it past the democrats either. The interested party will filibuster, or otherwise kill a bill, if their pet project rider is removed from the bill. This isn't exclusive to either the democrats or the republicans, they both do it on almost every bill.

In my view, Washington is within it's own bubble and has it's own culture where special interest lobbyists seem to have more sway than the people who elected them. Many of our "representitives" (in both parties) have lost touch with the rest of the nation.
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One of our journalists covering your politics remarked that your system is pretty much set up to fail. Also that you think we're communist when you hear about our centralised healthcare and forcing people to vote . . .
Niffiwan wrote:Compared to 16 other 1st-world countries, (most of the EU, Canada and Japan), America is near the top in a lot of categories and is #1 in:

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And all that while spending twice as much on healthcare per capita. But at least America isn't socialist like those other places - it is admirable to see a country standing up for its philosophical principles, even at personal cost to itself.
But who needs a happy, healthy and compassionate society when you have freedom?!

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the sun has hotter and colder cycles, we just happen to be in a hotter period in the lifecycle of the sun.
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I don't kow where I stand on the issue of global warming...

I'm aware that the Earth and sun go through cycles like this, but isn't the Earth overdue for an Ice age?
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Yeah. The development of agriculture derailed that completely, though.

Humans: mucking about with the environment since 5000 BCE.
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Zeracles wrote:But who needs a happy, healthy and compassionate society when you have freedom?!
I don't know, who?

Freedom's an interesting idea, but the way it comes out in American culture seems to be more along the lines of this: (I present to you, a few comics I drew)

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The images aren't loading and when I tried to go by the link directly, it said image unavailable...

It is election day today, we have 32 parties and I have still not decided whom to vote for.
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I rehosted the images. Looks like my host doesn't like hotlinking.
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Zeracles wrote:One of our journalists covering your politics remarked that your system is pretty much set up to fail. Also that you think we're communist when you hear about our centralised healthcare and forcing people to vote . . .
One of your journalists is an idiot. We have the oldest constitution in the world. Our system is clearly set up to be robust and flexible. It is designed to keep the wealthy in power, but contains sufficient safety-valves to prevent a messy revolution from taking place.
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